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The House Committee on Energy and Commerce
Subcommittee on Commerce, Trade, and Consumer Protection
October 30, 2003
Good morning and welcome to the subcommittee's hearing entitled:
"E-commerce: The case of Online Wine Sales and Direct Shipment." This
hearing is one of a number of hearings that the subcommittee has held on
electronic commerce in this and the 107th Congress. As I have said in the past,
I think it important that the subcommittee and the full committee, as
Congressional custodians of the commerce clause, be vigilant of and encourage
interstate commerce in general and nascent forms of interstate commerce, such as
e-commerce in particular.
In particular, this hearing is a follow up to a subcommittee hearing held
September of last year focused on state impediments to e-commerce. At that
hearing we heard testimony on state legal and regulatory impediments that were
undermining consumer choice and e-commerce with respect to three products and
services: (1) Auctions, (2) Contact Lenses and (3) Wine. Just four weeks ago,
the Committee approved H.R. 3140 removing a number of state regulatory barriers
identified in the subcommittee's September 2002 hearing that impeded online
contact sales.
This past July, the Federal Trade Commission issued a report entitled:
Possible Anticompetitive Barriers to E-Commerce: Wine. This staff report grew
out of the FTC's Internet Task Force convened in August 2001 to evaluate
government regulations of particular products and services that could stifle
online commerce and competition. The objective of the report is to inform a
raging debate between those who argue that direct shipment of wine to consumers,
specifically online sales, should not be banned because it provides consumers
with lower prices and greater variety of wines and states that ban such sales,
so that they can protect against sales to minors and collect of excise taxes. I
commend the Commission for undertaking this report with the purpose of informing
that debate. Today, we hope to examine the FTC report carefully and consider its
broader public policy implications with respect to interstate and electronic
commerce.
The FTC's July staff report concludes ". that states could
significantly enhance consumer welfare by allowing the direct shipment of wine
to consumers." The report states that "[t]hrough direct shipping,
online wine sales offer consumers lower prices and greater selection." In
looking at both the availability and pricing of some 83 wines - all of which
appeared in Wine and Spirits magazines "Top 50 Wines" list for 2002 -
within a ten mile radius of McLean, VA., the Commission staff found that 15% of
those 83 wines could not be found in McLean retail outlets, while being
available online. Moreover, the Commission's staff report found that online
prices for wines priced at above $20 were between 8 to 13% lower than prices at
brick-and mortar retailers. The savings accruing to consumers' from online sales
increased to 20 to 21% for wines priced over $40. Yet, they found that
bricks-and-mortar stores, after factoring in shipment costs, offered better
prices on less-expensive wines. At the time of the survey, Virginia had a ban on
direct shipments of wine.
In light of the consumer welfare gains demonstrated in the McLean survey, the
report observes that public policy goals of excise tax collection and prevention
of sales to minors can still be accomplished by states through less restrictive
regulation, short of an outright ban of direct interstate wine sales. Many
states, the report notes, permit interstate direct shipment report few or no
problems with shipments to minors or with tax collection.
I know that this debate highlights the tension between the Commerce Clause
and the 21st Amendment to the Constitution. Under the dormant commerce clause
doctrine, the Supreme Court has held states cannot impede or discriminate
against interstate commerce. Meanwhile, the 21st Amendment has been interpreted
as giving the states broad powers in its regulation of the sale and distribution
of liquor within and across its borders. As there is a split in the Circuits on
how to resolve that tension, I am confident, the Supreme Court, in time, will
address this matter.
Notwithstanding the ongoing legal battle, I think that the states' public
policy objectives of precluding wine sales to underage drinkers and the
collection of excise taxes, both of which are advanced under the color of the
states' 21st Amendment authority, are very important public policy objectives
indeed. Still, if the FTC staff reports analysis holds true for markets other
than McLean, I find it persuasive that states should pursue less restrictive
forms of regulation of direct interstate wine sales than outright bans. For
example, the report concludes that states can prevent sales to minors using
restrictions other than bans on direct shipments by requiring wineries to label
their packages as containing alcohol and requiring the package carrier to verify
the age of the customer by obtaining an adult signature at the time of delivery
and/or requiring out-of-state companies to obtain shipping permits and setting
up penalty and enforcement systems.
I thank the witnesses for appearing before the subcommittee this morning and
look forward to hearing their testimony.
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