Witness Testimony
Ms. Cynthia Johanson
Senior Vice President, Interactive and Education PBS 1320 Braddock Place
Alexandria, VA, 22314
The 'Dot Kids' Internet Domain: Protecting Children Online
Subcommittee on Telecommunications and the Internet
May 6, 2004
09:30 AM
Mr. Chairman, Members of the Committee, on behalf of PBS and my colleagues
from 349 local PBS stations around the country, I am grateful for the
opportunity to come before you to discuss our shared goal - to offer a safe,
quality, educational online haven to America's children.
We commend Congress for recognizing the need to create what has been called
the Internet equivalent of a wing of a library for kids to check out books. As
this Committee seeks to evaluate the progress of the Dot Kids Implementation and
Efficiency Act of 2002, we are glad to offer both our experience over the past 7
years providing our pbskids.org site, and our newer experience providing a
special site under the dot-kids domain created by Congress. We hope to offer
insights into lessons we have learned since launching our dot-kids site, and
some suggestions on how together we can continue to make the new dot-kids domain
a success.
PBS and our member stations have at our core a mission to educate the public.
In particular, we have become the standard bearer in educational children's
television and off-air educational materials. PBS offers award-winning
children's content that educates, enriches and entertains, employing the full
spectrum of on- and off-air media to help build kids' knowledge and strengthen
their critical thinking. In what looks like a race to the bottom by some, PBS
remains a safe haven for children and adults from the explicit content and
extreme commercialism that many observe are the hallmarks of today's media.
We see our efforts as empowering children to become stronger members of their
communities, nation and world, and we work closely with a growing number of
parents, teachers and caregivers as our partners in this effort.
Our History
With the advent of the Internet, PBS recognized that there were exciting new
opportunities to help educate and entertain children. We were at the forefront
of bringing children safe and appropriate online content. The PBS KIDS Web site,
pbskids.org, launched in 1997 as the online home of PBS KIDS TV favorites such
as SESAME STREET, ARTHUR, MISTER ROGERS' NEIGHBORHOOD, among many others.
PBS KIDS programming meets high educational standards. PBS KIDS Web sites are
developed by the same educational experts who produce PBS KIDS TV programming,
and, therefore, we strive to ensure every activity on our Web sites meets the
same educational goals of their companion PBS KIDS TV programs. From BETWEEN THE
LIONS to CYBERCHASE to CLIFFORD THE BIG RED DOG, we make sure that kids can
learn and play with their favorite PBS KIDS content in a safe and inviting
space.
Parents and kids trust PBS KIDS. Since its debut, PBS KIDS online has grown
to become one of the most visited and trusted spaces for children - and their
parents -- on the Internet. pbskids.org currently averages more than 334 million
pageviews and 16 million unique visits per month, and those numbers are growing
at a remarkable pace. For many children, pbskids.org is their first experience
on the Internet and we take that responsibility very seriously as we hope to
instill a love of learning and understanding, at their fingertips through the
personalized, on-demand experiences made possible by the Web.
Teachers and librarians rely heavily on pbskids.org. pbskids.org is funded in
part by the Department of Education through a Ready To Learn grant, and because
we prominently feature comprehensive resources for parents and teachers on every
PBS KIDS TV program Web site, it's no surprise that pbskids.org is a top
destination for teachers and librarians across the country. And, we constantly
assess what these audiences want and need by regularly reviewing site usage,
meeting with focus groups and by gathering feedback through online surveys.
pbskids.org has twice won the Wired Kids Safety "Best of the Web"
award, was recently nominated for a Webby award as one of the best
"youth" sites on the Web, and throughout the years our TV
program-related Web sites have earned "Parents Choice" awards, Prix
Jeunesse Awards, and the prestigious Japan Prize, which recognizes excellence in
science and technology.
What We've Learned
Since our launch of pbskids.org in 1997, we've invested enormous resources in
researching what works and what doesn't, who visits the site and why and what
content is most useful and popular. We are pleased to be able to share the
lessons we've learned with you today.
First, we learned that kids use the Internet differently from adults. In
short, they dive deeper and stay longer. On average, a Web user coming to
pbskids.org views more than 80 pages of Web content in one visit. To provide
some context, an average pbs.org Web site visit results in about 7 Web pages
viewed. Similarly, a visitor to pbs.org spends about 4 minutes on the site,
while those on pbskids.org average more than 36 minutes per sitting.
We have learned that kids go very deep into our pbskids.org Web content in
every sitting, that they like to share their ideas and stories through carefully
screened submission "bulletin boards," and test their skills through
multiple rounds of educational games.
Both our statistics and our observations of kids on pbskids.org indicate that
the most popular activities are educational games that allow "repeat
play" and address multiple skill levels. We work hard to create activities
that can engage kids of broad age and skill ranges and invite them to come back
and play again. We recommend this technique with content on the dot-kids site as
well.
To keep kids interested, we regularly research and test our online content to
make sure that our entire audience of kids between the ages of 2 and 12 can find
content that is, at the same time, age-appropriate, educational and engaging.
pbskids.org is built to be entirely kid-driven. I believe this is also your goal
with the dot-kids domain.
The second lesson we learned is that it is critical, and possible, to provide
rich and safe content. Given that kids consume so much interactive media, so
deeply, it's essential that we provide them with safe, rich, educational and fun
content to explore -- and this is what pbskids.org is committed to offering.
But, given the statistics about how much time kids are spending online in
general and how much media they consume while online we, like you, are
especially sensitive to the alarms this raises for parents, educators, content
creators, and certainly many in this room.
We, like you, often ask, how do we make sure that kids find content that is
appropriate and safe for them? How do we protect them from violent, sexually
explicit, dangerous or overly commercial online content?
On pbskids.org, we think it's important to get kids started by teaching them
essential Internet navigation skills and, most importantly, train them how to be
critical media consumers. Activities on pbskids.org like "Get Your Web
License" explain safe surfing skills -- like never giving out your full
name on the Internet and what to do if you click on "scary" content.
Once kids master the challenges presented in this online quiz, they can print
out their own "Web License."
The PBS KIDS site is also carefully constructed so that kids know where they
are at all times. We keep the Web links traveling outside the PBS KIDS domain to
a minimum and insulate each one with a "bridge page" alerting kids
that they are leaving the PBS KIDS world, explaining where the link will go, and
providing a simple "What to know before you go" Web literacy tip.
We know from focus group testing that kids quickly learn how to navigate
within pbskids.org and take these site boundaries very seriously. When kids
encounter "bridge pages," they most often follow clearly marked links
back into pbskids.org.
In the kids.us domain you have addressed this issue by taking the linking
possibility out of the equation, but we think that Web literacy among children
continues to be an important educational tool and we would encourage you to
consider a similar concept for the dot-kids domain.
Finally, we have developed over the years a number of methods to attract
parents, kids, teachers and others to our site. I know you are interested in
letting kids and parents know about the safe haven you have created, so we'd
like to share some insight into what has brought so many kids, parents and
educators to pbskids.org.
PBS and our local PBS stations believe it's important to not only make great
content available, but also ensure that it actually reaches as many American
children as possible. Universal coverage has always been at the heart of our TV
mission.
We employ a variety of outreach techniques on behalf of pbskids.org " We
include numerous broadcast mentions of the Web site address at the end of our
children's programs " We feature the address on outreach materials and
print ads appearing in national publications read by parents, kids and
educators. " We reach out to both school- and home-based educators to help
bring them the message that pbskids.org offers broad educational Web content
that can help their kids. " We work with the major search engines -
especially those aimed at children, like Yahooligans -- to ensure that they are
pointing to our content. " The impact and reach of our Web content is
further extended through local PBS stations' outreach activities, many carried
out in partnerships with other community institutions including, for instance,
local Head Start programs, neighborhood libraries, and a variety of childcare
institutions.
We would be happy to work with you to help you develop techniques for
reaching your audiences. Parents and educators are a huge resource for driving
kids to your new domain. Promoting the site with search engines and with other
sites and mediums that are reaching children is also important.
We have learned, and we've described for you today, how much depth kids
require when they go on line. They visit frequently and stay a long time. If we
can be helpful to you in providing guidance for how to develop the dot-kids
domain into a place that kids visit often and has the kind of content to engage
them for the length of time they want to stay, we'd be happy to share additional
information about what we've learned over the years.
Our Presence on the Dot-Kids Domain
Given our mission and experience in this area, we certainly applaud you, Mr.
Chairman, and this Committee, for your continued strong interest in kids online
safety. We feel it is important for PBS KIDS to participate in kids.us as an
early content contributor, and we are proud to have launched pbskids.kids.us on
this service.
In preparation for launching our area of the dot-kids site, we worked in
collaboration with every major PBS KIDS content producer -- including Sesame
Workshop, Scholastic and WGBH -- to post 28 interactive games related to 15
different PBS KIDS series. We are featuring activities from these PBS KIDS
programs on the dot-kids site: ARTHUR, BARNEY, BERENSTAIN BEARS, BETWEEN THE
LIONS, CAILLOU, CLIFFORD THE BIG RED DOG, CYBERCHASE, DRAGON TALES, GEORGE
SHRINKS, MISTER ROGERS' NEIGHBORHOOD, READING RAINBOW, SAGWA THE CHINESE SIAMESE
CAT, SESAME STREET, TELETUBBIES and ZOOM .
These PBS activities on the dot-kids site span our wide audience range for
kids between the ages of 2 and 12, and focus on skills and themes such as
language acquisition, math, early literacy, problem solving and early science.
We feel that this is a robust and representative range of PBS KIDS content,
and now that the content is live, we will continue to monitor the traffic and
usage of the kids.us domain space to determine how and when new content should
be added.
Our Suggestions for the Future
PBS shares your goal of developing safe spaces on the Internet for children.
To that end, we would like to respectfully offer some comments based on our
experience as you move forward on implementation of the dot-kids site.
First, keep in mind that for many of us who currently have deep, interactive
sites, the dot-kids domain presented a unique challenge. With limited resources
of our own, we needed to come up with a way to construct an entirely new site,
maintain it, and keep it fresh and interesting. The reluctance of some to
participate may be due in large part to this resourcing issue. I know we
struggled with it at PBS. I thought you should be aware of this as a significant
hurdle.
Second, we at PBS, as you know, as part of our overall Public Broadcasting
mandate, are non-commercial. You, Mr. Chairman, are very well aware of the
opportunities and challenges this provides us as a broadcasting entity. But it
is something in the kids area that we are very proud and protective of. Second
only to educational content, it is the one thing that parents constantly tell us
they most value about PBS. As a parent, you know how important it is to be able
to sit down with your child and view television that is not only truly
educational, but that won't bombard you with advertising for the most popular
toy of the holiday season. Children are especially vulnerable to commercial
messages - any parent certainly knows the power advertising has on kids!
We at PBS would simply urge you to examine the potential for commercialism
within the dot-kids domain. We understand that we are used to a different
standard, but our standard is one that we believe strongly is good for kids -
and it was also mandated by Congress.
As stated in The Dot Kids Implementation and Efficiency Act of 2002, the goal
of .kids.us was to create a "green-light area of the Internet, that will
contain only content that is appropriate for children under the age of 13 and is
analogous to the creation of a children's section within a library."
We agree wholeheartedly with that description. The children's section of the
library is a safe, welcoming place with content on a wide range of
age-appropriate issues by a diverse set of authors. We would simply urge you to
keep an eye on the commercial potential of the new domain and monitor it
regularly to ensure that kids are not explicitly being sold to while they are in
that space.
Again, Mr. Chairman, we want to reiterate PBS' strong support for your and
your colleagues' ongoing efforts to promote a safe online space for children. We
look forward to working together on this effort with you in the future. If there
is any specific way we can be helpful in the near future, I hope you will let us
know.
Thank you.
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