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H.R. 2417, the Dot Kids Name Act of 2001.

Subcommittee on Telecommunications and the Internet
November 1, 2001
10:00 AM
2123 Rayburn House Office Building 

 

Mr. Bruce A. Taylor
President and Chief Counsel
The National Law Center for Children and Families
3819 Plaza Drive
Fairfax, VA, 22030

Mr. Chairman and Members of the Committee:

            Thank you for the opportunity to provide testimony on H.R. 2417.  As President and Chief Counsel of the National Law Center for Children and Families, it is my primary function to provide advice and assistance to legislators, law enforcement agencies, and public officials on the enforcement and improvement of federal and state laws prohibiting the unlawful traffic in child pornography, obscenity, pornography that is obscene for minors, and indecency, as well as on racketeering, prostitution, and the regulation of sexually oriented businesses.  I have been prosecuting obscenity and vice offenses under state and federal laws since 1973, when I was an Assistant Prosecutor for the City of Cleveland, including over five years as a federal prosecutor with the Justice Department's Child Exploitation and Obscenity Section.  I think I have prosecuted more obscenity cases than any attorney in this Country's history, amounting to about a hundred jury trials and a couple hundred appeal briefs on First Amendment related issues in such cases.  Since joining the National Law Center's staff six years ago, I have been constantly involved in advising Congressional sponsors on several Internet related bills to restrict or control the unlawful or harmful traffic in pornography, especially in its accessibility to minor children.  I have been a strong proponent of improving laws and legal remedies in this area, but have also supported immunities to enable Good Samaritan efforts by the Internet industry to voluntarily restrict access to pornography, hate sites, controlled substances and weapons, and other objectionable materials, as well as encouraged increased diligence and involvement by parents, educators, and others who share a role in safeguarding and educating our children and grand-children in their online experiences.  In this latter regard, I served on the Steering Committee for the Internet-Online Summit a couple years ago to assist and encourage the Industry to formulate methods of supplying appropriate content and better safety for children and to provide and enable real protections for minors and tools for adult and parental supervision and protection of minor children while online.

            In support of the creation of a Dot Kids domain for the World Wide Web, I'd like to offer some thoughts on why such a domain could help children, what legislative and constitutional issues should be addressed, and how Congress can better assure that the new domain will accomplish its purpose of being a safe and educational online place for our kids to learn and play.

            The first statement I will make, therefore, shall be in support of the intent and purpose of this proposed act: to provide an Internet accessed WWW domain that will contain content, services, and facilities for use by minor children that is free of harmful and pornographic materials; that safeguards the privacy and safety of such adolescent users; and which provides a forum where minors have access to information and entertainment that is safe, lawful, and appropriate, while giving content providers access to children under conditions of agreement to comply with the pre-requisites mandated and intended by Congress for these purposes.

            In short, I submit that a Dot Kids domain can be a great service to our youth, is a constitutional means of accomplishing this result, and can be achieved with proper guidance from the Congress.

            I.          A Dot Kids domain furthers a substantial governmental purpose:

            This act will help solve the problem we face today of giving our children and grand-children access to an Internet, WWWeb, and Usenet that have inordinate amounts of "adult" and pornographic and inappropriate materials, while balancing the ability of adults to use interactive computer services for lawful purposes without endangering such younger users.  Among all the beneficial and potential means of balancing the means for making the Internet safe for children and/or providing a safe haven on the Internet for children, a separate and safeguarded Kids domain could provide an online playground, school, and library that real kids could enjoy and learn from without interfering with the content on the rest of the domains of the World Wide Web or other online services for adults or children.  Building kids their own space in cyberspace is the least we can do for them amid the vast universe of information and services that the rest of us need or desire for ourselves.  Whatever we adults do with our space, under the law or outside the law, need not and should not pollute the computer environment for those younger ones who need us for their protection, nurturing, education, and entertainment. 

Whatever success or frustration there may be to make "the Internet more safe for children", whether through laws, law enforcement, voluntary Good Samaritan efforts, or parental supervision, a Dot Kids domain can be that safe-haven for the kids to go until we adults achieve more success in giving them safe-access to the public areas of cyberspace or until, if we continue to fail, they are old enough to fend for themselves as adults in the electronic adult world they will inherit.

For these reasons, I support efforts to create a children's domain on the Web where the rules are written for their protection and the adults who build and supply that domain are bound by those rules.  I adamantly oppose the creation of a "dot porn" or "dot sex" domain, because I don't think we should elevate the pornography syndicates to a seat at the World Wide Web consortium or legitimize their ill-gotten gains and because I don't trust them to stay on their own vice domain and get off the cash-cow of the dot com domain.  They'll take the red-light district and fill it with porn and prostitution, but they'll never leave our children and families alone in the rest of cyberspace anymore than they do today.  The pornography industry, by its very nature and purpose, has no respect for public morality and no respect for human dignity.  Their nature is to exploit and their purpose is to seduce customers into continual addiction in pursuit of profit.  Those are clear battle lines, on opposite sides of the law, and no one should expect more clarity or compromise than that.  On the other hand, I do not oppose a Dot Kids domain, if created and operated for their benefit instead of ours.  There are practical problems to face and solve, but I do not believe there should be serious constitutional problems with carving out a safe-zone for children, even though we don't surrender a vice-zone for adults.

Constitutionally, the creation of a domain for minor children that is limited to information and images that are lawful and appropriate for them should be found by the courts to be within the surpassing governmental interest in protecting and educating our children.  There will surely be challenges to the act, similar to those lodged against the Communications Decency Act of 1996 (CDA), Child Online Protection Act of 1998 (COPA), and the Children's Internet Protection Act of 2000 (CIPA).  Such challenges will not likely oppose the creation of the Kids zone, but will seek to enjoin the rules set by Congress to restrict the presence of pornography and other harmful or objectionable content within the zone.  There is even a probable likelihood that a judge will enjoin the restrictive conditions for the Kids domain during the years of litigation over the legal objections raised to those conditions.  Congress should consider, therefore, making the existence of the domain conditional on the application of the conditions for the domain, so that the domain will not remain online as a "combat zone" for kids if the courts strike down the restrictions against unprotected and inappropriate materials.  Instead of adopting a "severability" clause that could separate the domain from its child-safety conditions, the act could require or allow the domain to be closed in the event the protective conditions are taken away. 

II.        A child-safe Dot Kids domain is Constitutional:

A separate domain for minor children can and should be governed by the constitutional principles of what is lawful and appropriate for minors, rather than adults, and the ability or effort to service and protect children in their own zone would not affect the ability of adults to engage in protected activities on any other domain.  In a children's zone, there would be no constitutional violation in prohibiting the display or dissemination of sex or nudity that is "indecent", soft-core adult pornography that is "harmful to minors" or "obscene for minors", hard-core adult pornography that is "obscene" even for adults, or "child pornography" that sexually depicts children.  Children have no constitutional right to any of those types of materials and adults have no constitutional right to display or disseminate such materials to minors. 

My first suggestion is to amend Section 2 of the act, subsection (b)(2), to expand the "Green Light Approach" to exclude not just that which is legally "harmful to minors", but all unprotected materials from which minors may be protected, to wit:

"The new domain shall be available for voluntary use as a location only of material that is considered suitable for minors and shall not be available for use as a location of any material that is harmful to minors or obscene for minors (as used in 47 U.S.C. § 231 and explained in the Report to accompany H.R. 3783, the Child Online Protection Act of 1998, H. Rept. No. 105-775); indecent (as used in 47 U.S.C. § 223 and explained in the Joint Explanatory Statement of the Committee of Conference, Report for Pub. L. No. 104-104, the Communications Decency Act of 1996, 1996 U.S.C.C.A.N. Leg. Hist. 200-11); obscene (as used in 18 U.S.C. §§ 1460-1470); or child pornography (as used in 18 U.S.C. §§ 2251, 2252, 2252A, and 2256).

 

Restricting such materials from minors in a designated minors' facility would not infringe any rights of adults or minors, since none of those materials are lawful or protected for minors.  The Supreme Court has discussed the impropriety of removing materials from a school library because of the ideas, message, politics, or religious views expressed, even though materials may be restricted if found to be "pervasively vulgar" or lacking "educational suitability".  See: Board of Education v. Pico, 457 U.S. 853, 870-72 (1982).  The Court has also ruled that "indecent" materials may be prohibited from certain public media in order to protect minors and unconsenting adults, even the broadcast indecency prohibited from radio and television by 18 U.S.C. § 1464 and interpreted by the FCC and the Court in FCC v. Pacifica Foundation, 438 U.S. 726, 741-50 (1978).  The Court has continued to recognize that minors are not entitled to indecent depictions or descriptions of sexual subject matter, even though minors may have a right to obtain non-indecent information about such subject matter.  It is not the message or issue that is restricted, only the indecent way of conveying the message or illustrating the issue.  The Court has, therefore, upheld the indecency standard when limited to minors, even when striking down the use of that standard when the restrictions would extend it to adults outside of the broadcast mediums, such as in certain attempted dial-porn, cable TV, or Internet indecency restrictions.  See: Sable Communications of Cal., Inc. v. FCC, 492 U.S. 115, 126 (1989) (indecent dial-porn); Denver Area Ed. Tel. Consortium v. FCC, 518 U.S. 727 (1996) (cable-casting indecency), and United States v. Playboy Entertainment Group, Inc., 529 U.S. 803 (2000) (scrambling indecency on cable TV); and Reno v. American Civil Liberties Union, 521 U.S. 844 (1997) (CDA's indecency provisions for Internet and other interactive computer services). 

Unlike the reasons accepted by the courts for declaring the indecency-display provisions of the CDA unconstitutional, that the indecency standard was overbroad when applied to public services of the Internet because they supposedly lacked technically feasible ways to restrict minors from the indecency without restricting it to adults, a Dot Kids domain can be avoided by adults themselves and its safe-harbor protections are not imposed on the rest of the Internet, Web, or Usenet so adults are not restricted from any indecency or "harmful to minors" materials to which they may be entitled.  The reasonings adopted by the courts in the CDA and COPA litigations would not apply to a children's domain, since adults would not be restricted from any protected information on the rest of the Net.  Restricting indecency and harmful to minors pornography, as well as obscenity and child pornography, from minors' areas would be consistent with the limited venue restrictions against less-than-obscene pornography in other contexts, such as prison-porn restrictions, Thornburgh v. Abbott, 490 U.S. 401 (1989), and Amatel v. Reno, 156 F.3d 192 (D.C. Cir. 1998); restricting porn on military installations, General Media Communications, Inc. v. Cohen, 131 F.3d 273 (2d Cir. 1997); restricting arts funding by considerations that include indecency, National Endowment for the Arts v. Finley, 524 U.S. 569 (1998); permitting private indecency restrictions by cable TV operators, Loce v. Time Warner, 191 F.3d 256 (2d Cir. 1999); and permitting state governments to restrict pornography access on state-owned or funded computers, Urofsky v. Gilmore, 216 F.3d 401 (4th Cir. 2000).  The Dot Kids domain would also be consistent with the intent of Congress to provide filtered access by minors to federally subsidized Internet access in public schools and libraries through the Children's Internet Protection Act of 2000.  Due to the separate and designated nature of the Kids-Friendly Domain to be created by this act, the constitutionality of this act can and should be secure regardless of the eventual result of the challenges to the COPA, CIPA, or other laws placing restrictions for pornography on public areas of the Net.  A Kids domain makes a kid-safe part of the Internet, rather than attempting to make other parts of the Internet safe for kids.  All classes of materials that are unprotected for minors may be restricted from minors on the minors' domain without restricting any such material for adults.  Therefore, it is my opinion that this act is constitutionally valid and enforceable.

III.       Further clarifications and suggestions should be considered:

            Congress can anticipate certain probable and potential challenges and issues and I submit a few such areas of consideration:

  1. As suggested above, the act can and should prohibit from the Kids domain, under Sub-section (b)(2), not just pornography that is "harmful to minors", but also the other unlawful and unprotected classes of pornography for minors and adults, including child pornography, obscenity, and indecency (which could be both the broadcast indecency material used for radio, TV, and cable, as well as the "online indecency" material intended for interactive computer services, as discussed in the Conference Report on the CDA and in the Brief of Members of Congress ... as Amici Curiae in Reno v. ACLU, supra;

  2.  Consider a statement of legislative intent to create the Kids domain for the age group(s) of minors of either or both grade school or high school levels;

  3. Consider requiring that the domain managers and site operators filter the domain with software and server-based content filters (as required by the Children's Internet Protection Act, CIPA), require mandatory use of content ratings (such as those of the Internet Content Rating Association, ICRA's PICS-compliant rating system), and privacy protection measures to prevent minors from being targeted by direct marketing that uses or discloses personal identification information about or by the minors (as required by the Children's Privacy Protection Act).  Employing these Congressional and industry measures in an actual domain would provide a real-world test environment within which to make use of and demonstrate the effectiveness of Congressional protections intended by those acts and enabled by the Good Samaritan immunities and defenses granted to industry as part of the CDA in 47 U.S.C. § .223 (b) and (c);

  4. Consider mandating that domain managers and site operators monitor compliance and provide automatic reporting and tiplines to law enforcement agencies, both state and federal, as well as to Congress for re-evaluation and enforcement of the act's purposes and guidelines;

  5. Consider preference to or involvement of filtering companies in structure and operation of the domain, to insure that domain managers will give effect to Congressional intent, instead of entrusting such an important function and public asset to managers or operators who would frustrate the purposes of the domain;

  6. Consider having only filtered portals, if any, for safe access or links to information on other domains, online services, and Usenet newsgroups;

  7. Consider prohibiting interactive and un-moderated chat rooms and instant message boards;

  8. Consider prohibiting Sexually Oriented Advertisements ("SOA"), as that term is used to restrict mailings for pornographic materials in the Postal codes under 39 U.S.C. §§ 3008, 3010 and 18 U.S.C. §§ 1735, 1737, including banner or pop-up ads containing any obscene, harmful to minors, or indecent material or giving information on how or where to obtain such information, as prohibited from the mails by 18 U.S.C. § 1461;

  9. Consider restricting unsolicited or unapproved advertisements and spamming, especially for products or services that are unlawful for or restricted from minors, such as alcohol, drugs, weapons, tobacco products, for pornography that is obscene for adults, obscene for minors (HTM), or indecent, or even for sexual masturbation or abuse devices (such as defined by Georgia, Texas, and Alabama state statutes which have been upheld).

For all these reasons, the Dot Kids Domain Name Act of 2001 is a good and wise effort to protect minor children and allow them to share in using the Internet as it was meant to be used and as it was created by the Congress for the benefit of all the world.

                                                Respectfully submitted, November 1, 2001, 

 

                                                Bruce A. Taylor
                                                President & Chief Counsel
                                                National Law Center for Children and Families
                                                3819 Plaza Drive, Fairfax, VA 22030
                                                (703) 691-4626, Fax: -4669
                                                BruceTaylor@NationalLawCenter.org

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